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Chasing Francis by Ian Cron

June 14, 2008

chasing francis I need to thank Ian personally for this book (I received it as part of the Soularize experience) as once again a book came at the right time for me. I met Ian briefly on a boat in the Bahamas on our way to swim with sharks, but never knew this was his work.

To give you a run down, the book centres on a character (Pastor Chase) who is the founding pastor of a large protestant church in the New England area. Chase, as you find out early is going through a lot of questioning on what the church is to be and during a passionate moment, vomits these ideas all over his congregation. (Sounds like something I would do). This leads to a forced leave of absence so he can work through where he is at, and allow to elders to assess whether he should stay on.

After working through some of the issues with family (and getting hurt by a lot of church members) he decides to leave the country and go visit his uncle in Italy. In Italy he studies with a number of Saint Francisan monks and they begin to shape the way he sees the world and ultimately the church.

If I was to write a book in order to teach a way of life, this is how I would do it. The story was very well written and believable (more believable from an American stand point, as I have heard how churches are down there, but understandable as a Canadian). And for me it was a great way to get introduced to more of Saint Francis, a Saint I really only knew as a few famous quotes. Near the end when Chase is connecting back up with his old church, I felt that Saint Francis was given way too much credit in his speech, but other than that I loved this book entirely.

On my CP scale I give it a 4.5/5, and recommend it to any church planter, leader or whatever that needs a pilgrimage to work through how they feel they about how the church should be and the role they should play in it.

My friend mike made a short mention on his blog about this book as well.

missional training 4.: intentional community

May 8, 2008

mtn.jpgmtn.jpg The last Missional Training was a treat. Bob Roxburgh, a man with more years of ministry experience than I have years of anything, came out from Vancouver to talk with us for the day. In addition, Cam told some of his best stories yet, Caireen is processing the call of God and some sound missional thinking, and Garth and Dave are cuter than ever (Garth’s dieting and Dave’s exercising). It’s a good thing they don’t let the three of us up front to teach, because the most insightful thing we said all day was I’m sure glad we didn’t get that tattoo before our theology changed.

The Stories
The stories told were great, and do a better job of communicating authentic community and true accountability than the rest of the discussion, so we’ll start with those, and then you can fill in the rest of your thinking with the more conceptual thoughts from the day.

Debt
Cam’s mission group had a young couple in it that had been overspending for years, and while the group had tried confronting them about the issue, they just weren’t ready to change their ways yet, and so they continued their debt-ridden Vancouver yuppie lifestyle. After a couple years of this, they showed up at the mission group one night, the husband hung his head, and finally they asked for help. They were $23,000 in debt, and it had gotten so bad that even making payments the debt continued to increase because of the rate of interest. They were renting and had no savings, so there was no cash in any of their pockets. They had stopped answering their phones, which rang day and night with bill collectors, and felt that they had no resort but to file bankruptcy. And of course, now that they had finally hit rock bottom, they were incredibly open to help and good ideas.

Many churches would have done one of two things.

  1. Felt uncomfortable, fidgeted, averted their eyes, offered to pray, and wished them luck.
  2. Given them money, offered to pray, and wished them luck.

Not being most churches, they instead proceeded into a long dialogue about whether Jesus would be cool with them going bankrupt when they had gotten themselves into the mess via greed and a lack of self-control. Cam then asked them if they were willing to change, and the man answered that he was of course willing to change; how could things get worse?

The next day Cam took them to see their church finance guy (I think his name was Scott, but I didn’t write it down), and told them to bring along all their books, statements, etc. He then explained that from that point forward, all the money they made would go to Scott, and he would tell them what they could spend. After a day of phone calls to creditors, promising to pay and setting up payment plans, Scott talked them down to $18,000 in debt. He then looked over their books and figured out that there was no way they could afford the place they were renting, and they needed to move. Cam had a basement sweet that would probably go for $1,000, but he rented it to them for $400, the guy got a second job, and for a year they tightened the belt as far as it could go. Lots of Mac and cheese. People from the mission group would stop by with meals, take their kids to do stuff, etc. as their way of helping. At the end off a year they owed $3,000, and in 15 months they were in the black. Now that’s accountability! Rather than passive and condemning, it was an active commitment to help them through the process of repentance and restoration.

A motorcycle
An extreme story, but intimately tied to a way of life grounded in the sure truth that we are not very good at discerning the voice of God by ourselves, as much as we seem to think that a quiet room with a Bible should be all we need. That’s important, don’t get me wrong, but we need one another to keep from making some really silly mistakes. Bob told a story that illustrates this way of living in the ordinary stuff of life.

Bob’s been around for awhile, and somewhere around mid-life crisis time he went out and bought himself a motorcycle. He laid it down once, then twice, but the third time he put his leg in a cast. At this point he began to wonder whether he was getting to be a danger and needed to give up riding. So, he thought it over, prayed about it, talked to his wife, and asked his mission group what they thought. They cared enough about it to pray it over for a week, come back together to discuss it, and tell him that they were fine with him still riding: it just seemed like he’d had an honest accident. This man who’d been leading and pastoring for many years was very serious about his trust in them. If they had said “no,” he wouldn’t have a motorcycle today, because he knows they love him, and he trusts them to make decisions in his best interest.

Accountability
Combined, these stories create a picture of accountability the way it should be, tied to a life that is truly shared with other believers, that recognizes our need for others in order for us to hear the voice of God in personal and family decisions, and that trusts them to keep our best interests at heart, even as we keep their best interests as our priority. Out of this comes the authority to challenge one another and help each other through the process of repentance and restoration. Imagine coming to a group of people who are committed to you, and you to them, and combining all your wisdom in making very personal decisions like whether or not to homeschool your kids, how much to give to the poor and how much to spend on vacation, whether to quit or keep your job, etc. It might mean you don’t always get what you want, but it might also keep you from looking as silly as Rehoboam.

Other points of interest
We began with a meditation on Isaiah 6, and discussed King Uzziah’s uncanny likeness to the former King Ralph in the land of Alberta. Though he left Israel in an incredibly good political and financial standing, but the spiritual reality Isaiah revealed was very different. Most importantly we focused on the inward and outward nature of Isaiah’s experience with God. It had to do with coming into God’s presence and being purified, but also with being sent out to take part in what God was doing in Israel and the world. We thus deduced that the clearest evidence of a Spirit filled church is its effect on the world.

We paused before beginning our study of intentional community to point out that community is not an end in itself, but is the byproduct of a missional, purpose-oriented life.

We looked at the differences between biblical and cultural community, noting that most of what is trendy right now, whether it be St. Arbucks, Facebook, or a hockey club, is primarily motivated by individual self-satisfaction. This cultural narcissism fights against the formation of authentic community.

Different groups looked at Genesis 1 & 12, Ephesians 1 & 3, Hebrews 10:19-25, and John 13:34-35 & 17. We got Ephesians 1, in which we found God sweeping us up in the purpose He has always had for the whole world: to bring everything together in Christ at the right time. We talked about the final verse, where Jesus fills both the church and everything everywhere, and we talked about the symbiosis between God’s purpose for His church and for the world.

We all looked at I Peter together, where Peter says that in Christ we have a new genos, eqnos, and laos, meaning a new origin, a new family/people, and a new family business (structured on the common life of the ancient world). The word genos (pronounced Guinness) set Dave off on an Irish beer tangent, but we brought him back around, practicing that Christian accountability described earlier.

Bob dropped a great line somewhere in the middle, when he warned that we shouldn’t expect any new way of being the church to be that terribly different from those churches that have come before us. As long as they’re full of people they’ll tend towards entropy and will be tempted by the culture, and as long as they’re led by people, so will their leaders.

The primary way (not only or even best, but primary) of being the missional church is the formation of missional tribes. Cam talked about their mission groups, explaining that they base them on geography and not on affinity because they want their only affinity to be in Jesus. They used to expect their mission groups to multiply every 18 months, but they let go of that because they were afraid of an overemphasis on numbers and growth. The result has been a sever decline in effectiveness and an increase in apathy towards mission. He now thinks that groups are more effective with a clear purpose and expectation held out in from of them.

Books recommended

Creating content: a church that benefits a community by producing

March 22, 2008

So bare with me on this thought…as it isn’t totally thought through yet, but have we ever thought of church as a group of people gathering together to produce something?

I think the first place I heard about this was in Steve Taylor’s book Out of Bounds Church, but while out for breakfast today in Victoria I started reading this local free magazine called the metropolitan and I was overwhelmed with some ideas.

Now currently our little experiment called the open house (I have my reasons for using “experiment” and they have more to do with the nature of our community, not the commitment levels) is once again rethinking our role, space, and existence in east Vancouver and I find it stressful, yet incredibly exciting. We have so many open, flexible and creative people that the possibilities are endless for what we can become. And as I dream about what we can be, and think through what we have become I am beginning to dream about what it would mean for our church to be a creator of content for our community.

This was seriously spurred on through this magazine i read today, mainly because the content of this magazine was simple, to the point and free and even though I have counter opinions to the actual substance I read, I really appreciated how they have provided for the Victoria downtown community. There is something special about a group of people who come together to produce something, to dream ideas of what to produce and then passing it on to their neighbors for free. One might call that a “church experience”, purely in the nature of the community (producing, working, sharing all these things together).

Now what if our church ceased to gather for the sake of gathering, ceased to worship just to worship, but instead gathered together each week to dream, learn from each other, imagine and the produce something for the benefit of our community. And I mean something seriously tangible, not abstract. I mean a magazine, or a business, or a __________, you fill in the blank.

These ideas get me excited, and I hope I can continue to dream in this way with our church, because there is something powerful in creating beautiful, free, beneficial content for our neighbourhood, and I want to be a part of that kind of church.

relying on old ladies with bling

January 30, 2008

Sitting in a Tim Hortons’s, delaying the beginning of my work day, in order to pray and seek God about some big decisions to come about and I am doing the most faithless thing.

I am hoping that these nice older ladies sitting beside me will ask me what I am doing, say that they love God too and offer me thousands of dollars and resources in order to fix my problem.

I have to say, I personally laughed at that last line too. And I hope you did, cause this is not uncommon for any of us who claim to have faith in God. We believe that God has his best lined up for us and if we really had faith we wouldn’t have to go through any suffering to get it. There are always nice old ladies with lots of money ready to give you money for your good work you are doing for Jesus right!?!?

However I am in a dilemma. And I know that I can’t rely on some chance situation to fix it all. I have to believe that God wants to work with the person He created and the creation around Him, to see that life take care of itself. People working together under God to mend relationships in the world…that is powerful.

I know what is right. And what is right is not always popular. And if it’s unpopular you might lose friends, standing, pride…numbers.

My life needs to be about justice…and my church as well.

Meeting of the minds

January 30, 2008

Mike Frost and Alan Hirsh are soon to begin monthly online forums full of missional thinking and Australian humor. You’ll want to keep an eye on this.

Quote on the future of Western Christianity

November 19, 2007

“Experimental groups seeking to engage the Christian faith in a postmodern context will often lack the resources, profile or success record of the Boomer congregations. By definition, they are new, untried, relatively disorganized and fearful of self-promotion. They reject the corporate model of their Boomer forebears, and thus do not appear, according to existing paradigms, to be significant. But don’t be fooled. Somewhere in the genesis and genius of these diverse groups is hidden the future of Western Christianity. To dismiss them is to throw away the seeds of our survival.”

- Gerard Kelly, RetroFuture: Rediscovering Our Roots, Recharting Our Routes

Imagine

November 13, 2007

Sanan and I will be headed to Ottawa today to participate in the Imagine Congress, put on by OUTREACH CANADA. It’s their once every two year event for all denoms to get together and talk about church planting. We may not learn a whole lot that is new, but it will be a good chance to feel the trends and network in the hallways. We already have a meeting set up with Joe Manafo and Jared Seifert who are doing a video doc on the emerging church across Canada. One interesting aspect of this meeting is that there are some of our heavy weights as main speakers: Gerry Taillon and Ed Stetzer.

incarnational challenge: gathering spaces

October 2, 2007

I’m reading through Shaping of Things to Come and the one recurring theme of where incarnation is taking place is in people’s homes. This is not a new idea. House churches though thriving in some cultures is may I say, a lot less prevalent in Canada. One of the reasons I think is that in Canada, the home is not a gathering place. Karen and I are presently attending an Alliance church and the pastor is pushing for its people to be part of small groups. We attended the initial meeting the other day and for a church of about 1400, guess how many attended the meeting? Ten. Why? Because the home is not a gathering place. The home is a refuge, a fort, a hiding place for people to retreat from the world after a day of work. This is the culture, this is the rhythm for most Canadians. So, if we are to engage people, we need to find an alternative space to do so. We may do this at the local hockey rink but our default still seems to be to invite people to our homes for “bible study.”

I like the ideas presented so far in The Shaping of Things to Come. However, the great incarnational challenge for Canadians remains: finding spaces and opportunities to not only engage our neighbors but then perhaps finding other spaces as the relationships progress.

to work or not to work?

September 27, 2007

tent makingCurrently our church plant is going through a transition where money that was given to start it up is now being slowly taken away as to produce sustainability in the church. I think this the right choice in general, as I would never want to be dependent on funding for keeping our church running for a lot of reasons, but I now have a dilemma.

to work or to raise support?

I can see in the Bible that Paul tends to move in and out of both, and Jesus the same way (or perhaps he worked up until he was 30 and then funded his mission after that).

What are your experiences with bi-vocational ministry and how much work is too much? And how does this look for us in these incarnational churches, where the dependency on the Pastor is not necessarily the same as in some of our friends churches.

This is my situation and I am tossing up both and could really use some insight.

Thinktank on Starfish

July 22, 2007

starfishspiderI would like to suggest a book study in the not-too-future. I’m currently reading through The Starfish and the Spider: the unstoppable force of leaderless organizations - I think it has some important implications for new ideas in church and community. But, I really need some friends to think through some of the ideas and pitfalls with me as well as to dream up possibilities. If you are interested (1) write me at incarnationinstantbreakfast@googlegroups.com (2) if you want I’ll send you some notes that a friend has written up (this will give you a better idea of what is being covered in the book) and (3) buy the book and start reading it. We’ll start after my little summer excursion to the UK - around mid-September, this will give you plenty of time to read the book. I propose our dialog be a bit private so maybe we can do it with a simple email circle, but I’m open to ideas. More later…. Dave